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Aszcar Majere Journeyman

Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 140
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: Norture... |
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We can only go by in game info, boards, and UO.Com.
Please send me the links to the information you have. And also please post a history of Evil in UOARPC, hopefully starting around pub 16, so that we may be better informed.
Thank you. _________________ If there are any problems with me or the Giovanni, please contact 326-187-680 |
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Kaelthir Certifiable


Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 1932
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:19 am Post subject: |
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Again, I apologize for exploding at you, and I understand in a way because the RP is mostly done behind closed doors now. You need to have the connections.
Sadly, a lot of the online info has disappeared. Azalin took down the OES website. A lot of IC OES books can be found in The Grand Britannian Repertory, it's just outside of Zento by the northwestern exit, the first house directly to the right of the inn if you look at your minimap.
Just quickly going through the books, an old Cappadocian I know of has a few in here.
I can write up things about the Umbra OES history and give Oblivion worshipping history and lore, but it might have to wait until my days off. Work is leaving me beat! I've got a write up for how to RP a vampire on Atlantic (specifically a Tzimisce) that I could show you, too. I was speaking with a few oldies tonight and I'll work on getting as much info together as possible.
As well, if you want any sort of IC or OOC roleplay class, I would be happy to offer it. I've got a vampire character that could teach you ICly about things, such as the old vampire circles and their plans and their inner workings.
For now though, I should really get to bed. I should have been in an hour ago ><
Edit: Side note, when my vampire was but a thrall, her sire told her to go and read the Scholomance and get a sense of what she was getting into. Looking at some of these books reminded me of it :3
And, if you want more necromancy history, Barl is a good person to go to as well. It might be a good idea for us to work together to try and put together a cohesive evil RP history that we could keep available for people to see. |
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Ceinwyn ab'Arawn Transcendent Spammer

Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 5017
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Lol and again, that would only teach you some of it. There has been alot of evil Rp over the years.. with Zog and Realm of Umbra and Dark Order, Brotherhood of the Hand.. Stormreaver Orcs House Strathmore..
Really. It's alot.
But if I can become ooc aquainted with it, so can you. |
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Kaelthir Certifiable


Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 1932
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, that is very true. I am going to poke you Umbra guys for some lore stuff so we can at least put together a necromancy history an a vampire history. I should have been more specific. |
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Halister Marner Site Programmer


Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 2232
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Check the Atlantic RP Wiki, the old OES webpage is there in bits and pieces, as well as tons of other evil lore.
The evil lore sections of the Grand Britannian Repertory contain much info as well, I believe we have several shelves dedicated to the history of evil on Atlantic. _________________ "There are those who dream to escape reality, and there are those who dream to change it." |
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Aszcar Majere Journeyman

Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 140
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for your quick response.
However, since we the Giovanni don't want this to happen again. I would urge you to post your class in this forum so that we all may learn. Also, as roleplay goes, who makes them the experts on Vampire/marshmallows/necromancy/carebears? The world was flat, then when we travelled around it we thought the sun rotated around us. Now we know we rotate around the sun.
I guess what makes a good RP'r IMHO is one that adapts not one that sits on the laurels of RP past.
In seeing that the community (or a select few in it) are quite tied to the past feeling it is SUPPOSED to be the way. You will need to teach all of us. In game would take weeks perhaps months, make a post and we all can read it and carry on with fun RP. This timeline doesn't count any new members you would have to start new classes for.
Thank you for offering to make this information public knowledge.
As for your offer on how to RP a vampire, the roleplay 101 primer written Oct 2007 does reference VTM for baseline, and we will use other GM's to fill the rest out.
Thank you, again, thank you. _________________ If there are any problems with me or the Giovanni, please contact 326-187-680 |
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Beleth Lore Keeper


Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 848
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Guide to evil rp...
Just remember. On Atlantic, Beleth was > Oblivion.
Any Atlantic rper should understand the significance of that. _________________
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Aszcar Majere Journeyman

Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 140
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Beleth wrote: | Guide to evil rp...
Just remember. On Atlantic, Beleth was > Oblivion.
Any Atlantic rper should understand the significance of that. |
You know I am getting this alot.
Let me explain, please. A group of Players come from another shard. the have a solid reason and storyline for getting to Atl. They should know nothing of the past here cause it is not the same as where they came from. They should be learning in game the history if some Character wishes to sit down and teach them. Kinda hard with vampires, maybe bring a garlic Gorget with vials of holy water from a true believer strapped to it.
And the biggest point everyone here is missing is that it doesn't matter what is said here, in game our characters still know nothing more. The GIovanni don't metagame/godmode/anything. I am not accusing others of it, but frak those ICQ's fly when players start getting pulled out of their comfort zone. and a lot of info is passed really fast through unRPable means.
Just play have fun, if you want to defend the "This is > Then that" get in game and teach it. We don't bring OOC in game.
Now if you were just joking around disreguard the entire post... but at least you know how new players are facing an uphill battle just to RP
please have a wonderful endless night, _________________ If there are any problems with me or the Giovanni, please contact 326-187-680 |
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Jonathan Strathmore Certifiable


Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 1986 Location: Inside your mind.
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Ceinwyn ab'Arawn wrote: | House Strathmore.. |
You all are fraked. |
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Ilaria Giovanni Adventurer

Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 60 Location: The Giovanni Clan
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: Common ground? |
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Wow, reading this forum brings back memories. Guess most roleplay communities on any shard have the same sorts of issues.
New versus old, Veteran versus newbie..... It is hard on both sides... coming into a community a "baptism by fire" if you will you jump in do some background reading, prep work for your character and try to merge into the traffic lane which is the plot lines etc already running on that shard. For those already in the plotline or having secured their place in traffic comes choices as do I become defensive, offensive or remain neutral.
I have watch board warriors on Great Lakes the long dead "departed roleplayers" those who have resurrected after years of being "lost" and fresh new blood.... and collisions apparently happen all over.
Its hard when the historic rp you've known and love begins to shift, when old timers leave game and new faces come. New ideas etc. Change is always hard. It is NOT possible I don't think to maintain a 100% accurate chronology of a shards rp history. Websites come and go, players move on in their lives... stuff gets lost, deleted and forgotten.
I encourage all to communicate instead of getting defensive or offensive. Maybe there is an in game solution... a story tellers night? A historian character in game? I'm trying to read and read and read before I do anything but work skills.
In Medieval times storytellers and lore keepers were prized for their entertainment value... were they not? Maybe an event where there is a camp fire and an encampent? Where someone wanders in and instead of a fight you get to share food and tales of battle, history etc?
There has to be a way to bridge this information gap, exchange stuff in character and avoid squashing anyones toes or trampling over graves. |
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omera Journeyman

Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 124
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Common ground? |
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Ilaria Giovanni wrote: | Wow, reading this forum brings back memories. Guess most roleplay communities on any shard have the same sorts of issues.
New versus old, Veteran versus newbie..... It is hard on both sides... coming into a community a "baptism by fire" if you will you jump in do some background reading, prep work for your character and try to merge into the traffic lane which is the plot lines etc already running on that shard. For those already in the plotline or having secured their place in traffic comes choices as do I become defensive, offensive or remain neutral.
I have watch board warriors on Great Lakes the long dead "departed roleplayers" those who have resurrected after years of being "lost" and fresh new blood.... and collisions apparently happen all over.
Its hard when the historic rp you've known and love begins to shift, when old timers leave game and new faces come. New ideas etc. Change is always hard. It is NOT possible I don't think to maintain a 100% accurate chronology of a shards rp history. Websites come and go, players move on in their lives... stuff gets lost, deleted and forgotten.
I encourage all to communicate instead of getting defensive or offensive. Maybe there is an in game solution... a story tellers night? A historian character in game? I'm trying to read and read and read before I do anything but work skills.
In Medieval times storytellers and lore keepers were prized for their entertainment value... were they not? Maybe an event where there is a camp fire and an encampent? Where someone wanders in and instead of a fight you get to share food and tales of battle, history etc?
There has to be a way to bridge this information gap, exchange stuff in character and avoid squashing anyones toes or trampling over graves. |
Oldscale, my lizardman is a tribal storyteller. He tells native american-esque stories that teach a life lesson. Only thing is I don't know much UO lore
Edit: I think the reason why 'lore-accurate' RP died was because the single player ultima games were too old for newer gamers to start playing, or older players who never played them to care about. Without people playing the ultima singleplayer games, 'lore-accurate' RP died. Honestly, I could care less. It opens up a whole new spectrum of RP. |
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Kaelthir Certifiable


Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 1932
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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I've got no problems with time changing, and the history shouldn't affect how any of you play your characters. But making bold statements like you are THE BEST NECROMANCERS on a server you just joined, as well as being hostile when people tell you otherwise, just doesn't sit well. I mean, you say you want to learn, but then get aggressive in other threads. We're not telling you to change what you're doing at all, and quite frankly being told "WELL HISTORY CAN BE REWRITTEN AND WE'RE REWRITING IT SO THERE KTHXBYE" comes off like a big frack-you to everyone else. I fully admitted that it's hard to pick up lore and would be happy to write up a fast and easy history, but I'm starting to feel like it's not worth my time to. Would you honestly even care or read it? |
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Cear Dallben ZOG Administrator


Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 2495 Location: Blackrock, Isle of the Avatar
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omera Journeyman

Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 124
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Norture wrote: | I've got no problems with time changing, and the history shouldn't affect how any of you play your characters. But making bold statements like you are THE BEST NECROMANCERS on a server you just joined, as well as being hostile when people tell you otherwise, just doesn't sit well. I mean, you say you want to learn, but then get aggressive in other threads. We're not telling you to change what you're doing at all, and quite frankly being told "WELL HISTORY CAN BE REWRITTEN AND WE'RE REWRITING IT SO THERE KTHXBYE" comes off like a big frak-you to everyone else. I fully admitted that it's hard to pick up lore and would be happy to write up a fast and easy history, but I'm starting to feel like it's not worth my time to. Would you honestly even care or read it? |
Norture... My RP lorekeeping friend...
The Cappadocians have already started RPing in UO, thus they are already in the lore and that cannot be changed. I think it would stupid for Cappadocians to magically vanish.
Now... Don't make me tell you stories!!! *points finger menacingly* |
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Kaelthir Certifiable


Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 1932
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Where did you derive that interpretation from my post? Actually, I said quite the opposite:
Quote: | I've got no problems with time changing, and the history shouldn't affect how any of you play your characters... We're not telling you to change what you're doing at all |
Seriously, the only thing I'm asking for is respect.
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