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Sennah T'Nae
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:25 am Post subject: To All of the Active RP Community Reply with quote

I am posting this to try to gather some thoughts from other community members about rp events within the shard.

What roleplay events would you like to see more often? What type of scenarios interest you?

Would you like to have some in game ooc meetings to brainstorm for ideas of roleplay that the community can participate in?

I know rpers do not like to break character, however it would give a 'live' venue for everyone to bring ideas to light instead of relying solely on forums.

What are your thoughts on tavern nights? Do you feel they should stay on a Monday rotation or do you have a suggestion for a new way that might work better to interest people? Also, would mini events make tavern nights more appealing? What mini events would you suggest?


If there is anything else you wish to add, please feel free to do so.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: To All of the Active RP Community Reply with quote

Sennah T'Nae wrote:
What roleplay events would you like to see more often? What type of scenarios interest you?


I've been having fun being the protagonist against Vesper. Be it the orc attacks that resulting in the bridges being bombed or the ongoing plague that I started. I have a hand full of other types of attacks up my sleeve as well. Though I think I'll shift my attacks to another town for IC reasons.


Sennah T'Nae wrote:
Would you like to have some in game ooc meetings to brainstorm for ideas of roleplay that the community can participate in?
I know rpers do not like to break character, however it would give a 'live' venue for everyone to bring ideas to light instead of relying solely on forums.


I think it would be best to use an IRC type chat room to avoid breaking character. Also the conversation would not be limited to people who cam log into UO at that moment. As I mentioned before I play while at work so there are times it is much more feasible for me to glance at a chat screen than obviously staring at a video game. Also I feel the forums, be it ARPC or Stratics, is a fine place for brain storming, albeit slow.


Sennah T'Nae wrote:
What are your thoughts on tavern nights? Do you feel they should stay on a Monday rotation or do you have a suggestion for a new way that might work better to interest people? Also, would mini events make tavern nights more appealing? What mini events would you suggest?


Personally, I really hate tavern sitting. However they certainly have their use. They are a great way for people outside of a plot to be brought up to speed and possibly join in. So I would like to see the Tavern Night Schedule to keep going. For me though, Monday is a bad night. I usually play at work and work is usually busier on Mondays. So if Tavern night moved to another weeknight that would be super for me. I do like the idea of mini events for tavern nights. I can only think of a handful of times the cards at my tavern (technically a d casino) have been used. So a gambling night would be fun. Maybe another tavern could do a horse race. Or a tavern on the coast could host a quick boat race.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:26 am Post subject: Reply with quote

What roleplay events would you like to see more often? What type of scenarios interest you?

for me im willing to partipate in any type of event aslong as im able to rp and if it makes sense for my character to do so.

Would you like to have some in game ooc meetings to brainstorm for ideas of roleplay that the community can participate in?

like dante has said i think doing the ooc on forums or some form of chatroom is best. it makes it easier for people keep updated aswell in my opinion.

What are your thoughts on tavern nights?


i myself love tavern nights when i am able to go to them but then again i play a drunk my character is at home at these places. i feel that by keeping them weekly it allows a set time and place for any potential new player to go to and get involved with on going things. as far as mini events i do agree that sometimes just the same old sit down and drink in a tavern setting can get to become routine and less exciting. maybe offering something to get people to talk to others they normally would't talk to.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: To All of the Active RP Community Reply with quote

Excellent idea, Sennah.

What roleplay events would you like to see more often? What type of scenarios interest you?

In UO, we write the stories. Good stories need characters and drama. Drama requires conflict. I'd like to see more conflict, with the potential for but not only RP/PVP, and at-risk role-playing. In the old days of UO, no one ever played it safe, these days it's just all about preserving the status quo and not taking any genuine risks. And that's a problem not limited solely to Atlantic.

I'd love to see rotating tavern nights (or similar events) with hosts that always show up that can attract people and be used for launching interactions (good or bad) between guilds. However, I hate community events that require people to put a hold on character logic because of arbitrary rules about where and when fights can occur.

Would you like to have some in game ooc meetings to brainstorm for ideas of roleplay that the community can participate in?

Sure. I'm not sure where though. I think an OOC chat room might work best because they require some effort to actually log on and participate, while anyone can respond to a board post. These forums are nice, but in a lot of ways they're more of a nostalgic monument to the past than anything actually reflecting the current state of RP on Atlantic. The ARPC system really outdated, and I've never seen discussions about change go anywhere here.

While Stratics better reflects the current state of role-playing on Atlantic, I think your question also begs a follow-up question. What is the community? As much as people complain about things like the ARPC or the old one we had on Catskills whose name I forget, or the Europa equivalent, sometimes they do exist for a reason. A community, by definition, needs to have some common values and standards. There certainly needs to be some mutual understanding for war status to exist between groups, especially on a larger scale to create those kinds of grand conflicts we all remember fondly. For my own tastes, I really don't enjoy the everything goes, conflict played out on the boards, half IC/half OOC RP-related threads I often see on Stratics. It's fun for some people, I'm sure, but I'd love to see less RP board-persona and more in-game action. On the other hand, I also don't enjoy the permission-slip style of RP that comes with heavily regulated RP communities, where every little action requires approval by committee. And I'm sure that others fall into different places between those two extremes. I think any community needs to be as inclusive as possible, but there are also limits there too.

So I'm curious who you (and others) see the community as being ...

What are your thoughts on tavern nights? Do you feel they should stay on a Monday rotation or do you have a suggestion for a new way that might work better to interest people? Also, would mini events make tavern nights more appealing? What mini events would you suggest?

It's not the time that concerns me as much as what I said above. Each tavern on the rotation should have a host that actually shows up. A rotation that alternates between two active hosts is far superior to a six location rotation where only two of the hosts ever show up. It'd also be fun if there was something more to do at a tavern night. Socializing is cool, but they're also great launch pads for story lines or even fun little games or contests or what not.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:35 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

The support team is always willing to do what ever is needed. We have planned outings but seemed it wasn't as wanted as we thought. So new ideas would be welcomed.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:51 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Wynn wrote:
The support team is always willing to do what ever is needed. We have planned outings but seemed it wasn't as wanted as we thought. So new ideas would be welcomed.


Wynn, I hope you know I think very highly of you and truly appreciate the work that you (and others) have done for the community.

As for new ideas, I think it's time to add some new people to the support/leadership team to replace those no longer with us. I think both Dante and Sennah would be excellent candidates as they've been very passionate and successful about organizing events and story lines that bring people in from all over.

The schedule needs an update. It's been two weeks without a tavern night schedule update. We need to remove taverns from the rotation when the host isn't playing anymore. The caravan hasn't been put on the schedule and it does a decent job of bringing people out. EM events haven't been put on the schedule and they're a great place to attract new people interested in role-playing. If one person gets busy in real life, there should be someone else who can pitch in for them.

This site is the first place people end up when they're looking for role-playing on Atlantic. Yet I don't think it gives an accurate impression of what's going on in-game and that ends up hurting everyone who is still interested in playing. Is ARPC a monument to the past or will it keep pace with the future?
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Sennah T'Nae
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:32 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the replies! I'd love to see more thoughts from rpers.

I looked up the mIRC and it seems that it has a registration fee, are there other possibilities, like maybe Google Hangouts? I don't want to worry about webcams and mics, just keep the brainstorming meetings text based.

Judas your statement about Dante and I made me smile and blush, thank you!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:57 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey everyone, Shade here.

I usually do the tavern rotations.

Heres the deal. We need to simplify things to make things more condensed so that new Roleplayers are having spots to meet up.

What would be great is: If centralized places of role-play could be decided on so that after people get done doing their own things they had a spot to go look for random roleplay encounters with other folks.

See my post at the top of this forum so we can start gathering feedback from the community that is still active.

I personally think a Forum devoted to Events only would be a good spot. Where people could announce them ect, but for now the General Assembly makes sense.

So if that sounds good to you guys I will be happy to set it up.

Judas, I have sticked the EM Events and Caravan events, you can also post them up on the Calendar for more visibility.

This will make things more streamlined and manageable.
My icq is 133506832. Also, if you don't know how to post things on the calendar let me know.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:22 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much Nightshade, I really appreciate that.

I also agree that an Event Forum would be a great idea. We do that on our guild site and I think it's helped a lot.

As for a centralized location, I would suggest Vesper given the sustained activity there over the past number of months, but that's just my point of view.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:06 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

A mixture between in game and player towns/ cities would be great for 'centralized rp', that way new players don't have to only search forums or have runes to player towns, they can run into it when in towns.

There definitely needs to be someone active both in game and in forums to keep the events current, I do not mind helping if it is needed because I do a lot of talking with rpers and non rpers already along with planning events and helping plan rp story arcs. So please let me know if you would like me to help.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:18 am Post subject: Re: To All of the Active RP Community Reply with quote

Judas D'arc wrote:
The ARPC system really outdated, and I've never seen discussions about change go anywhere here.

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they happen frequently in he Grand Senate......

I've seen dozens of these types of threads pop up over the years.......the problem is there's never any action taken from he discussion
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: To All of the Active RP Community Reply with quote

Gnarlug Varguk wrote:
they happen frequently in he Grand Senate......

I've seen dozens of these types of threads pop up over the years.......the problem is there's never any action taken from he discussion


While I understand the need for a Grand Senate private forum (our guild maintains one too), maybe it'd be productive to have a more public discussion this time around? And I agree, I've also seen a couple of these threads during my brief (when compared to others) time on Atlantic, so I can't imagine how many others have seen. The biggest issue I've seen in these threads is people not wanting to let go of the past, regardless of whether they're still actively playing. Then again, the last time I saw one of those threads, things were a lot more active than they appear to be right now.

Anyway, as I've said before, I really think the present (and future) of Atlantic role-playing is taking place on Stratics right now. I've seen a lot of people get interested in role-playing via the governor system, including people that might have had little interest six months or a year ago. I think it would be really good for the ARPC to try and reach out to that crowd.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:26 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of the Grand Senate there is a similar discussion that has been going on there for about the last month or so. Not to go into every minute detail but check out Nightshaed's post Roleplay Meet-Up Locations for Tavern/Community Gathering. Its essentially a watered down post of what we've been discussing in the Grand Senate I think this is most likely the inevitable future of the ARPC for the foreseeable future. The idea being Land Claims are going away (good riddance). The Tavern Night Rotation is going away in its recent incarnation. From what I gather it will be replaced with a more free form list of a taverns to choose from. But the ARPC RoE is still sticking around without question.


If you are a GM of an ARPC guild I encourage you to take a look at this thread. If you're not a GM I encourage you to ask you ARPC GM about it. I think before we pull any definite triggers we should have as much input as we possibly can. I would almost encourage the ARPC moderators/Admins to move that thread to a public forum if possible.
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Sometimes I know I can be a bit of an RP snob. I'll be honest my first reaction to a lot of the RP posts that have been happening on Stratics can be described as a cringe. I want to be inclusive. I want give everyone a chance. I don't want to stop anyone's fun. If you're not having fun you're doing it wrong I don't want to declare myself the RP police. So don't mistake my judgement of what others find to be fun as me saying no like I have any authority. Its just not for me. Not to mention the format in which all the posts are haphazardly thrown together with zero organization, also, not for me. So I'd like to stay right here in the good old ARPC for better or worse.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:04 am Post subject: Reply with quote

"Sometimes I know I can be a bit of an RP snob. I'll be honest my first reaction to a lot of the RP posts that have been happening on Stratics can be described as a cringe. "

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:37 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking about rp the last couple days has made me very irritated because there is one thing that is seriously hurting the rp. People have more excuses why they wont rp than they will. 'I don't like their rp', 'They don't rp correctly', 'I don't like the forum',....just stuff like that. How about we stop saying stuff like that and saying 'I want to rp' then just rp? I made the mistake of letting stupid stuff get in the way when I was in Catskills and I lost a lot of friends because of it.

Dante admitted he's a 'rp snob', but he still will rp with anyone that will put forth an effort to rp. If rp is going to change we need to stay true to the shard of Atlantic. RP is not about ARPC, land claims, or control, its all about rping with others. I'm fighting to have quality and all inclusive rp in the shard, I'm glad that there seems to be so many that say they want the same things, but work needs to be done in order to accomplish it. Just because this shard is more populated than others it doesn't mean you cant make a difference and create something special, it gives it more of an opportunity to make it great because there are more people to work with and try to find more rpers.

Next step we need to do as a community is make some solid plans, not just forum talk.

--Begin an rp plot in game

--Throw an event

--Look in uo Stratics (not the forum, the regular site) under lore of the cities and see that there are holidays already described out for some of the cities. http://uo2.stratics.com/lore-and-history


Lets make a difference!!! I love Atlantics general community, and the rpers in it, and I think we can make some great and interesting rp happen.
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