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Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:02 pm Post subject: I am not Chaszmyr. Reply with quote

Chaszmyr was a character of mine in NWN, but I am not Chaszmyr in :U:. Just thought I'd clarify.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:39 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Mithaniel, I swear, it's a shame you feel the need to post this. It's the symptom of annoying OOC mannerism.

I'm starting to get really sick of people feeling the need to say who they aren't. It shouldn't matter who someone is. What's that say about the community?

Was the RP good?

Yes?

Drop it and enjoy.

Most of the problems start once you know who someone is OOC. Why bring the negativity on yourself.

Happiness in anonymity.

Chas is another fresh blood. Alot of :U: is. People are icqing me asking "who is such-and-such?". Stop it. Will you stop Roleplaying with us once you find out someone is someone you don't like OOC? Good job, show me once again where the quality is. Those of you know who you are that I'm talking about.

Most of the time these people have NO alts that anyone knows.

I try to shelter my people from both forums. Keeps them fresher. In fact, my guild is run pretty damn Oldschool. We are warred to our allies, not using the ingame alliance system. I LIKE friendly fire. It's more realistic. Being warred to my allies also forces my members to stop before being a dick to an "orange" and think, "hey this might be an ally". It encourages better RP and discourages KOS to those

Also, since I'm at it, I'm also oldschool, apparantly, in the belief that if anyone has a problem OOC with one of my members, they need to come to me, the GM, about it. I -will- deal with the person. I interview every single person I guild, sometimes way past extensively. I investigate backgrounds, if I feel the need to. They know I won't stand for any BS.

Umbra has a mission and we won't compromise it. That mission is to bring more life to the community by being a kick ass evil RP guild.

And again, since poor Faith isn't example enough of for some people of why it doesn't matter who someone is behind the scenes.

The fact is, I trusted them enough to guild them. Might not mean something to some people out there, but it sure as hell does mean something to most.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:53 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Kudo's Ceinwyn.. I could not agree more!

When I get an icq asking who someone is in my guild, I tell them they are " insert the characters name here" . Thats all they need to know.
If they have an alt of someone else then that is their business to tell who they are if they wish. Most of mine are new faces as well and / or people I have known over the years that have come back to the game and decided to give roleplay a try or people I have trust in that I have roleplayed with over the years.. If the person asking feels the need to not roleplay with my guild because I refuse to say who my members are, that is their loss. They can take their ooc assumptions of who someone is and believe what they like. The person would not be in my guild if I did not think they were trying to roleplay and were safe to be in the community. And yes that means something to me as well.

As a GM I guess am also old school too .. if you have a problem come to me. As Ceinwyn and I have both done just recently , we came to each other over a concern regarding a member of both our guilds and worked it out between us without feeling the need to involve every member of our guilds or the community. It ended up beneficial to both our guilds and protected future issues we both may have had with a member.

Also , just to throw this out there, I am sick of people assuming others were someone (an alt) in the past they knew and they run around saying things about them that are not true. For example: Char A who has only been in existence for a year, give or take a few months. Char A hears that Char B has been going around saying Char A was in Guild C four years ago and caused problems. Char A was not around then and had absolutely nothing to do with Guild C or even knew Char B back then on any alt. Come on people , this is just bs and drama and attempts to smear the names of others. Consider the source of your OOC issues with someone, if your just hating because you are friends with someone else that has OOC issues with someone ... get over yourselves. If you don't like someone keep your OOC feeling OOC. To go in game and spread untrue rumors and lies just makes you look stupid when the truth is known by others and makes you look like a trouble maker and drama queen/king when the truth comes out or the people that had issues work them out.

My only other issue is people seem to have forgotten that alts are exactly that .. alts. They are not the other character that person has nor are they the person that controls them. Each is its own entity/ personality/ character.... unfortunantley many have forgotten that or cannot differentiate between them. Just because (sorry Ceinwyn gonna use you as an example Razz ) Ceinwyn plays a totally crazy evil biotch doesn't mean her other alt.. errr... Maelwyn is the same. People can play total opposites of the pole here. Thats why its called .. "roleplay" ... I could care less if the female in game is a male outside of game or vice versus .. yea I know a few male characters played by females too.. I give kudos to Faith........ had me fooled for a long time and as far as I am concerned showed what an excellent roleplayer he is/was compared to most. I admit my jaw dropped the first time I OOC spoke with him but my first thought was " damn he's good!" and I told him so.

At any rate I have ranted enough, time to get back in game and do what we come here to do ... Enjoy, have fun and roleplay!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd want people to know whether or not some guy named McFeely was running around was me or not. It saves a bunch of icqs later.

seriously, you act like he came here and called your momma fat
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't harp on someone for saying who he isn't :-/

He was probably ICQ'd and asked a few times, so he decided to post here so there's no misunderstandings. Hell, I know if someone popped up named Vaen and started in the RP community, I'd say the same thing. "Nope, that's not me."
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually , the issue goes much deeper then just making sure some guy or gal running around is the right person or not. Mithaniel knows where we are coming from. Some people feel the need to know everyones alts, even demand it at times and in some cases will try to ruin other's alts/ guild relations with that information.

Yes if someone was running around with my name and causing a problem I would hope someone would icq me and ask me if it was me. In the case of Mithanial's post, from what I understand someone just wanted to know if it was him in Ceinwyn's guild.

Nope...... no one was saying or feeling anything negative against Mithaniel here.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

I appreciate the complements and the examples rryn and ceinwin put in. I was an example of OOC metagaming, and for that reason, is why my female characters, particularly faith, are unplayable. I will not go further into this arguement though, just giving my thoughts.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: Re: I am not Chaszmyr. Reply with quote

Mithaniel wrote:
Chaszmyr was a character of mine in NWN, but I am not Chaszmyr in :U:. Just thought I'd clarify.


I AM SPARTICUS
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Then there are those of us that like to get to know people, not for that reason but sometimes knowing 2-4 peoplw a little more personally on a friendly basis can actually eliminate alot of probs, friendly fire and mouthyness. If people realize, hey, i'm warred but there is more than orange or green and we are all friends behind the scenes. at the same time Cein, there are people in your guild who will start a party and ask, "Are you an ally or Enemy" Seems it can go both ways.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Ally or enemy is one thing. Asking specifically if someone is the alt of so-and-so is a whole other.

As Rryn said, noone said anything negative about Mith at all in this thread.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

I missed the tone then, my apologies.

And I agree with Porthos. Perhaps if people took the time to get to know people out of character, problems would be solved. I know I'm tired of people talking crap OOC, and having it get transferred down the line. We don't need mice in this community, we need people who will go to the source of the problem and talk it out, rather than spread rumors that will only spread hatred.

But there's no "NEED" to know if "so and so" is "so and so's alt." None whatsoever. If you find that you enjoy that person's style of roleplay, and you enjoy roleplaying with them, that should be enough.

In my opinion, people who go around saying "Well I won't interact with this person because this person is in their guild" need to grow up. It's a game for crying out loud. Be the mature adults that you're supposed to be and suck it up. You're the one's being the problem.

That being said, I think I'm going to order a pizza! I'm hungry!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

i meant whatever tone i used.

All it seemed he wanted to do was let people know he wasn't this character he didn't mention any names at all. I don't see why it needed to even be expanded on.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Y'all need to remember what is really important during these days....

CANDY!!!

*goes back to trick or treating*
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:51 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

I second that, Mallory.

Everyone- just chill. Really. Being one of the people who ICQed Kuja asking if he was Chaszmyr, I can completely understand why he did it. Why does it matter that he's posting? I mean, come on. Go eat candy.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the candy. You can keep your coconut surprise candies away from me damnit!
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