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Halister Marner · **Site Programmer** Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 2217

New PvP Changes

These are on Test Center now, looking a lot better than what we have now.
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Cal Hurst · Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject:

Those are very delicious changes.

Now if they will just get rid of blessing and insuring items Wink

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Avature · Adventurer Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 78 Location: ATL GA

I dont like them at all...I wanna keep my gimpness
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Pestilence · Journeyman Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Posts: 206

I like it so far.
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Doireann · Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject:

I love all but one of these.

Beleth · Lore Keeper Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 848

Anatomy + eval provides too much of an advantage to a tank mage to allow special moves.

Essentially with Anat + Eval when you disarm a tank mage he would still maintain defense ability equal to gm wrestling.

The real annoyance to us tank mages however is the fact that we cannot combine, even with tactics, the use of a special move + a precasted spell.
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Toren Smythe · Seasoned Veteran Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 478

That, beleth, is going to kill warriors just as much. Prepping a special, and casting a heal... then having to re-prep the special.
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Doireann · Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject:

also, many of us warriors dropped tactics because with the 35 cap on most specials, tactics doesn't add anything as far as damage. A few only hit 33, but 90 tactics to add the extra two points? We have anatomy because we have to have it for healing.

Mairsil · Lore Master Joined: 02 Jan 2004 Posts: 1241

I hate them

They needed to nerf the hell out of nerve strike, I'm glad that is happening.

But they are killing alchemists, and to those of us who really use it in our templates and don't just stack EP and chug heals all day it is rather unfair.

I also hate the tactics thing, they need to make up their mind on whether the skill is useful or not.

Nerfing Death strike I understand, but to make it require hiding AND stealth to make it any good? Ridiculous. I've worked ninja three or four times now, not one of those characters uses stealth. That makes practically every one of the very few spells of ninja form useless unless you have stealth.

I guess it makes sense that ninjas should have stealth but still, seems stupid in my opinion.

Oh, also, what toren said. The re prepping specials thing is going to be annoying too.
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Narcissa · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:27 am Post subject:

Grrr...... Evil or Very Mad

is what I say to the purposed changes. Specifically,

1. Needing tactics to perform weapon specials-I mean it is a weapon special, not a tactic! I agree with Dory, Anat or tactics. Seems over kill to have both for 3 more dmg points.

2. Not being able to prep a special and cast- most the time I am casting a heal, maybe if we can cast non offensive spells with out it unpreping I would be ok with that.

3. Lastly, seems a bit harsh to cap the alchemist so drastically. Yes Capping them is fine but to 50? Sheesh. Why not cap it at 100% or even as low as 75% (so they don't have to lower the ecru rings)

There were more that irked me but those stood out.

Halister Marner · **Site Programmer** Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 2217

Toren Smythe · Seasoned Veteran Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 478

It's kind of annoying... because the only chars of mine not being affected are my very very gimp and effective characters. If they meant to balance pvp they just did a horrible job and made it even more difficult for warriors to be any good at all. My tank mage will hardly be effected except for the special prepping with a spell, but even that doesn't matter as much on him as it did for my warriors.
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Blackstaff · Visitor Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Posts: 7 Location: Wintermoor

They should make it like the old days where all you needed to own someone was and axe and some bandages.
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X'eros De'Vir · Journeyman Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 133

Cal Hurst · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:04 am Post subject:

These changes were brought about by people who do nothing but PvP. Trust me when I say that all of these changes have valid reasons, and really are for the better of the balance of the game.

Yes, including the re-prepping of special moves Wink

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