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Thomas Hunter Sage


Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 572
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: Roleplaying a Lycan.... |
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Again.. I am fairly new at roleplaying. So please be a little patient. I have some questions about roleplaying Lycan...
1. Is there a cure? If so, does that only work before human life is taken?
2. What are the repurcussions of not getting cured if I can control my hunger and not feed on human flesh? Is it possible to control the animal instincts, or do I totally lose control when I shift?
Thanks for helping out a newbie... _________________ "Always speak the Truth even if it leads to your death." - Lord Godfrey |
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Mallory Ventrue Lore Master

Joined: 29 Nov 2004 Posts: 1139
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:47 am Post subject: |
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If I remember correctly.... and pardon me if I am wrong.... I am sure one of the lycans could answer better... but doesn't the lycan have to choose to change you? _________________ Good friends are like stars. You don't always see them but you always know they are there...
Shabam 07:41PM actually meet me somewhere!
Shabam 07:41PM I looked at t.v....
Shabam 07:41PM and got lost
Ken 05:39PM You want to see the short of it? |
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Thomas Hunter Sage


Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 572
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:54 am Post subject: |
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From my understanding of Lycan lore... It only takes surviving a bite. I guess that would be the lycan's choice as he did not eat you or finish the kill when he bit you.
I guess it is a communicable disease, (and I want to be careful saying that as certain people in Umbra will get upset. ), spread thorugh bodily fluids. It would be as easy to control this as it would an STD realistically.
I am trying to decide if I want to be cured, as when I worked this char, I specifically trained Ninja skill to allow him to shapeshift into cu form. My concern is do I have to kill him off to cure him? Or do I even want to cure him.
Any Lycans out there want to shed some light on the subject? _________________ "Always speak the Truth even if it leads to your death." - Lord Godfrey |
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Greyskull Seasoned Veteran


Joined: 31 Dec 2003 Posts: 386
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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I found this, not sure it'll help
Lycanthropy from Greek lykoi, "wolf" anthropos, "man", a psychiatric state in which the patient believes he is a wolf or some other nonhuman animal. Undoubtedly stimulated by the once widespread superstition that lycanthropy is a supernatural condition in which men actually assume the physical form of other animals, the delusion has been most likely to occur among people who believe in reincarnation and the transmigration of souls.
Rarely does this condition surface. Examples of lycanthropy are only now being linked to schizophrenia - having very few cases to study in our present institutions makes this disease difficult to study in-depth.
Usually, a person is deemed to take the form of the most dangerous beast of prey of the region: the wolf or bear in Europe and northern Asia, the hyena or leopard in Africa, and the tiger in India, China, Japan, and elsewhere in Asia; but other animals are mentioned too. Both the superstition and the psychiatric disorder are linked to the belief in animal guardian spirits, vampires, totemism, witches, and werewolves. The folklore, fairy tales, and legends of many nations and peoples show evidence of lycanthropic belief.
Stories of men turning into beasts go back to antiquity. In parts of ancient Greece, werewolf myths, stemming from prehistoric times (based on new evidence), became linked with the Olympian religion. In Arcadia, a region plagued by wolves, there was a cult of the Wolf-Zeus. Mt. Lycaeus was the scene of a yearly gathering at which the priests were said to prepare a sacrificial feast that included meat mixed with human parts. According to legend, whoever tasted it became a wolf and could not turn into a man unless he abstained from human flesh for nine years.
The Romans also knew this superstition. Anyone who was supposed to have been turned into a wolf by means of magic spells or herbs was called versipellis "turnskin" by the Romans.
Stories about the werewolf were widely believed in Europe during the Middle Ages. Outlaws and bandits played on these superstitions by sometimes wearing wolfskins over their armour. At that time people were unusually prone to develop the delusion that they themselves were wolves; suspected lycanthropists were burned alive if convicted. Only rarely was their condition recognized as a psychological disturbance. Although the superstition is no longer common, traces still linger in some primitive and isolated areas.
The term werewolf isn't like the "classic" Hollywood-style ravenous beast stuff. The term lycanthropy as is used here can be found in some medical psychological books as being a disorder, a certain animal like behaveour as a result of an advanced psychosis. This is also not the way i like to use the term werewolf in relation to me. The way i use the term, is as in spiritual therianthropy.
Right, you are now probably a bit dazzled by the terms used by me here, so let me give a short description of them (borrowed from the AHWW FAQ):
Lycanthrope \'li-ken-throp\ n (NL lycanthropus, fr. GK lykanthropos werewolf, fr. lykos wolf + anthropos man) 1: a person displaying lycanthropy 2:a werewolf
Lycanthropy \'li-kan(t)-thra-pe\ n 1: a delusion that one has become a wolf. 2: the assumption of the form and characteristics of a wolf held to be possible by witchcraft or magic - lycanthropic adj.
Theriomorphic \'thir-e-o-'mor-fik\ adj (GK theriomorphos, fr. therion beast + morphe form - more at treacle): having an animal form <gods>
Mind you, these were taken from some dictionary, and provide a general discription of the terms, not an exact one. Read on to get a better understanding of what is meant.
A Theriomorph is a shapeshifter; a being who can assume an animal as well as a human form. A spiritual theriomorph is someone who at least sees aspects of animals in his or her personality and actions, and those aspects shape who he or she is. More so in the meaning of a spiritual shapeshifter, being able to assume animal as wel as human form in spirit (or a mix of the two). I feel an animal spirit that is an integral part of my being, affecting how i interact with others, what i do, where i go... and in that sense, i am a shapeshifter. I exist mentally and in spirit as both wolf and human (but not seperate, i am one person, one character, one being). When i shift, mentally, the outside world usually notices it... the change in thought produces a change in demeanor that's readily recognizable. Even without a shift though, there are several facets in my mind that are pure wolf thinking, and make me definately different than people around me.
Shifting itself is something that's almost impossible to explain to someone who isn't a shifter himself, but i'll try to give you some idea what this is about. My being is truly integrated, both human and wolf co-operating to do what i have to do, to say what i want to say, to live my life, trying to find one that best suits me as being part human, part non-human. Some other therianthropes feel this differently, have made a clear seperation between their human and animal forms, but for me, this is the way it is. Most of the time, to be able to go on mostly unnoticed, i have to let the main "line" of my life being led by my human side, to adapt to human civilisation, to "blend in" so to say. When shifting, i let the wolf side take more control, let the animal control my actions and thoughts more. Shifting can be triggered either by will, or (and it's a great advantage then) when the situation i'm in get's really dangerous, or life-threatening even, and the wolf gets me in a state of heightened awareness, being able to cope with whatever will come my way at that moment. Then, although my human side is still there, my thinking has gone almost purely predatorial.
There was a TV show in the late '80s early '90s that had Jack Palance as a werewolf and a guy he "bit" was searching for him. According to the show, if the guy that got bit found and killed the person (in this case Jack) he would be "cured" of the disease.
Meaning you need to kill the "source" werewolf (or Lycan) to cure yourself.
Hope that helps some. |
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Tia-Setri Sage


Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 544 Location: Akoris, Outside Skara Brea
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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OK IG there is a cure, depends on the lycanthropy and how the lycan became that way what the side effects would be should they be cured. Though IG to some a cure is not favorable, it alld epends on the way the lycan is RP'd. _________________ "The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
-Qui-Gon Jinn (Star Wars Episode I)- |
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Thomas Hunter Sage


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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Well, the character is a bit insane, or at least appears to be. That is part of his well designed disguise. He seeks truth in all forms, and has searched different mystical arts such as alchemy, inscription, magery, Ninjitsu, Necro, SS. Perhaps he can control his transformations, and keep from killing with it.
But he will initially terrorize Moonglow until he is cured, killed, or learns to control his new appetites.
Thanks _________________ "Always speak the Truth even if it leads to your death." - Lord Godfrey |
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Toren Smythe Seasoned Veteran

Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 478
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Don't cure him man, Lycans are awesome. _________________
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Merci d'Rue Babbling Loony

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 2810
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Right now Umbra has a very large Lycan population. A breeding one to, there are many that are born Lycans as well.
After much study, online, books, lore everything, there are many ways to play a Lycan. Yet it is best to stay away from the typically believed werewolf status quo as that works best in movies not if your trying to do something good rp.
From what I have researched Lycans have clans much like vampires, with certain traits and abilitys, there are those that are warrior clans, sage clans ect.
They are not surprisingly all evil either as is the common misconception. In Umbra becoming a Lycan is a gift not a disease or punishment. We are very careful about whom we bite. That is not to say there arent rogue Lycans, and Lycans clans that have less control over themselves with more of a wolf mind. However Rogue Lycans, just like the vampires often times cant be trusted.
Playing a Lycan is nothing like it used to be, its changed alot from what I have read, there are many beleifs and alot of lore. I will soon be doing a widespread plot involving an ancient Lycan artifact. Of course I am opening it up to all not just Lycans but you are certainly welcome or any interested to participate.
If you need any help with your character or have questions I am happy to give you my opinion or what I have researched.
Just pm me.
Thanks! _________________ May destiny guide you... |
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Merci d'Rue Babbling Loony

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 2810
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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p.s
We control much of what we do with potions, only losing control when we are made extremely angry or hurt.
Merci rarely shapeshifts into a wolf. It takes alot. The ones born with it, always have control it makes sense that bitten verses born would be different. _________________ May destiny guide you... |
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Thomas Hunter Sage


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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you so much. Very informative. I might elect to keep the condition, and seek your assistance in learning control. Being a scholar, and a mage might help with that as you must learn some modicum of control to be a wizard or necro. _________________ "Always speak the Truth even if it leads to your death." - Lord Godfrey |
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Ceinwyn ab'Arawn Transcendent Spammer

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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | 1. Is there a cure? If so, does that only work before human life is taken? |
Dying always cures lycanthropy.
In some lore, killing the one who bit you is a cure. In our community lore, magical egyptian elves can cure you.
However, the makers of Werewolf tabletop larp might have a cure. I'd google them for information.
Quote: | 2. What are the repurcussions of not getting cured if I can control my hunger and not feed on human flesh? Is it possible to control the animal instincts, or do I totally lose control when I shift? |
Depends on your will power. Also, the phase of the moon will affect you. There is no moon in Malas, but there are two moons in both Trammel and Fel. (the moons are named trammel and felucca) |
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Wolfe Lore Keeper

Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 898
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:58 am Post subject: |
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I've roleplayed a werewolf for some time. I pretty much follow my own rules. In my opinion, as long as it doesn't effect others negatively, and serves to provide interesting RP, why nitpick?
Do it however you like, just strive for some realism. |
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Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis Transcendent Spammer

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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Long ago around the old OES and TSE days, the vampire and (what few) lycanthropes there were went off whitewolf's World of Darkness lore. I'm fairly certain there is no 'cure' and I would avoid that because it means races and conditions go in and out of style since people can hop freely between them. |
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Thomas Hunter Sage


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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Well....
Quote: | In the World of Darkness, lycanthropy is not a disease but a heritable trait. |
So technically, I can't contract the condition if I use those rules.
I want to be very clear about the condition, and don't want to Godmode or Metagame. Seeing that there is no set rules for Lycans, Here are the rules that I am going to play with. I am going to combine lore from different sources to make up these rules.
1. Its a communicable disease or condition spread through blood or bodily fluids.
2. If a Lycan makes his first kill, the only cure is death.
3. Prior to making his first kill, he can be cured. (now have to work on the details on the cure... No.. a magical elf can't waive their hands and make it go away.)
4. The condition can be controlled to an extent, in that those people with sufficient training and experience controlling magix can control their monster, although it is harder during certain phases of the moon. As they live with the condition longer, the greater their control.
5. Lycan has certain attributes that are enhanced because of the condition, heightened sense of smell and hearing, and although they can be injured by normal weapons or magic spells, they will heal almost immediately. Permanent damage or death can be accomplished by use of Wolf slayer, and or by Removal of the Head and Heart.
6. Allergic to silver.. Thanks Cein for pointing that out...
7. Since there are no Moons in Malas, while in Luna or Umbra Lycan will not normally change, although they can but it is by choice only.
How do those rules sound? Not an attempt to godmode/metagame, but to make sure people know what to expect. _________________ "Always speak the Truth even if it leads to your death." - Lord Godfrey
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Ceinwyn ab'Arawn Transcendent Spammer

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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Allergic to silver at all? |
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