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[Cal Hurst]

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This is just a personal thing, I don't know how everyone else does it. But...

If you send me an ICQ, it is OOC. I do not roleplay in ICQ. Do not assume that when you are talking to me in ICQ, that I am speaking ICly. My roleplay is done in game. And please do not assume that if I'm speaking with you on ICQ, and you ask me a question about my character, that you can use it ICly.

This post is not made in anger, or is it directed at anyone in particular. It is just something that I feel needs to be clarified, because there was apparently some confusion.

Thanks
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[Drayek]

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I thought that was common sense...?

[Ceinwyn ab'Arawn]

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*slaps thurisaz* thats what you get for thinking!

[Tai Kwan Leap]

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if I say the same thing as thurisaz do I get slapped, too?
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[gypsy_merrique]

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[Garrick Koetrig]

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I will say the same as thurisaz but no slapping me...spanking only plz...*grins*
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[Deacon Drake]

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I agree, though in some instances in the past I have used ICQ to send carrier pigeons or wisps. It was always clear if it was IC. Back then we didn't have the Messenger's Log, and sometimes urgent messages needed to be sent (wisps do tend to travel a lot faster than pigeons, but it was never used to metagame. Messages like "We're being attacked, send backup!" were never used via ICQ).

I think ICQ should for the most part be considered OOC, but I don't think the use of it for IC private messages that don't need to be seen by the whole community should be entirely ruled out.
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[Cal Hurst]

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The instance in particular that drove me to make this post was when someone ICQ'd me and started asking me questions about my intent with Vaen. I began explaining some things to this person. As more and more questions were being asked, I then told this person that if they wish to really know about my character's intentions or such, they can contact me in game and we can roleplay it out.

Following this statement, this person then told me that the entire conversation (in ICQ) was in-character, and they were treating it as such.

So I just wanted to make this post to clarify.
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[gypsy_merrique]

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I personally do not care to use ICQ or any IM for in character discussions or communications. Though there are occasionally times I find it acceptable if everybody's in agreement. I personally think I might be annoyed if something like what you described happened too, Vaen. To be informed after the fact just makes things messy.
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It's always as dark as you thought it was.
And you don't have to work at staying there.
All you have to do is survive it.
And I've been doing that forever.
from the novel "Dark Debts" by Karen Hall

[Malo]

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Before this gets anymore ridiculous... Because I was flooded with protests about MTC's presence at a Protectorate event which led to a meeting of some of the leaders and hostilities where brought up, I ICQed Vaen with a simple question "What was the purpose of MTC being at the Protectorate training?"
He then specificly stated ""ICly.....yadda yadda... and we wanted to help you train"
I then asked "Why would MTC do that?"
2 simple questions.
Then he says if you want to talk to me do it in game in character...I said I am always in character.
Malo doesn't talk to Vaen In Game because Vaen is... well Vaen.. and is generally rude. I don't trust his character as far as I can throw an Ancient Wyrm.
It has been stated many times that if there is a conflict between players to not post a bunch of crap about it and clutter the boards. That would me
I see nothing wrong with a GM discussing the direction a scenario is going in ICQ.
It has been stated many times to not post complaints that should be handled Out of Game and off the boards...which would mean using ICQ or the like. But if Vaen refuses to use ICQ and wants to be rude IC, then there is no communication at all.
None the less, I never use infromation from ICQ In Game as that is metagaming.
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[Molly]

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I am passing a new edict. Every discussion whether in character or out must be delivered via camel caravan to the biggest landholder and if you don't follow this edict I will have a spanking line set up from Umbra to Luna made up of orcs, lizzardmen and crybabies of all races. At the end you must kiss the arse of my choosing.
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[Cal Hurst]

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MTC is -not- helping the Protectorate. Vaen is doing this on his own, and I want to make that VERY clear.

I answered every question you asked me, Malo, including "why would Vaen do that." The point of "Let's talk this out in game" was when you continued to question my IC intent in ICQ over, and over, and over again. You asked the same question atleast three times, and each time I gave you the short answer of it, and invited you to join me in the game for some roleplay if you wished to find out more.

The fact that Vaen is rude, is well... the roleplay of it all. That is my character, he's a bit of a bastard to some people, and the nicest guy you'll ever meet to some others. That is the roleplay I have adapted for that specific character, and that is how I will continue to roleplay him.

However, as I said, if you wish to set up an IC meeting with Vaen to discuss his intents, then he will not be rude. Many people in the community think Vaen is rude, yet some of those people have took it upon themselves to invite me to roleplay with them to talk some things out, and those situations went very smoothly, and all parties walked away from an enjoyable RP experience.

As for you always being in character, that's a good thing, you should be proud of that. However I do not do In Character in ICQ, as you suggested you were doing last night. My apologies, but that's just not really how I do things.

I dunno, I feel kind of silly that I have to answer some of these questions OOC so people can be comfortable with IC. But meh, whatever it takes to get some roleplay I guess.
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[Ceinwyn ab'Arawn]

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Well, I guess now that Malo spoke up we know who Vaen was talking about. Damn Malo, you old goat. ICQ is for OOC, unless initially stated otherwise. Any retroactive use of ICQ for IC purposes must then be agreed upon by both parties.

I had thought this was common sense enough.

[Isk]

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On the flip side all my ICQ conversations are considered to be IC. The character you are talking to is a secret alt so just by coming to me with drama or inquiry you are metagaming/godmoding me and yourselves.

[Cal Hurst]

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This post was never intended to single Malo out, but more of a general clarification of my use of ICQ, and the subsequent discussions on the matter.
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