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Ceinwyn ab'Arawn
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Molly, that is exactly what I went thru when I first formed Umbra. I hard a rumor from someone that I got my members from cybering them to get them to join. Yeah I guess that goes for all the females I have, too. Hmmm

It has occurred to me that maybe it is just because I am a female and run a successful guild. I mean hell I never hear of this happen with a male GM, have you? Anyone? It happens in today's corperate world as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember the rumors surrounding Molly when I first came to the community. It's a good laugh, but I can only imagine how it must feel to be accused of such a thing constantly. I can imagine that if it had been me as the GM of Legion back when and not Vaen the same thing might have happened. Which makes me a sad panda.

Honestly, as far as I see it.. This whole thing is as much a part of RP as anything else someone does. People have sex IRL right? Why shouldn't they be able to RP such a thing? They should be. Sure, some might not condone it or want to do it and that is their own personal opinion, which they are rightfully entitled to. However, bashing someone or their guild for it is just wrong. Accusing someone of strictly doing such a thing to recruit is wrong. I would gladly join Umbra and I have had no offers. (Disappointed! Gawd! j/k) But I have enjoyed their company and RP when I've encountered it, which would make me want to join if I had a char to join on. Imagine that.. wanting to join someone's guild for their RP. *gasp*

Again, Cein.. You're a great person from what I've seen so far. Don't let it get to you too much. Keep up the great work and let the people who want to spread rumors play their childish games. People will see the truth.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Ceinwyn ab'Arawn wrote:


It has occurred to me that maybe it is just because I am a female and run a successful guild. I mean hell I never hear of this happen with a male GM, have you? Anyone?


I don't know about anyone else but thats totally why I joined ISK.



On a serious note.... so long as I'm not walking into Hanse or the Den and see two people going at it like animals I could care less if you cyber or whatever gets you going. Just like RL I could care less who you sleep with I just probably don't want to hear about it lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as things of adult nature are done in private, or with fully consenting legal aged participants, I don't see the problem.

I've never been one to venture onto that side of gameplay and interaction in game, however I don't see a problem with it as long as it's not a situation that is being forced on someone who finds it uncomfortable or offensive.

As far as the Atlantic Roleplay community is concerned, we were the largest RP community in UO by a great margin from 1998-2002ish (our events would crash the shard!), after which we dropped off slowly, and recently gained steam this past year and a half. As of January we had over 50 players at events regularly, which usually drops off during the summer to half of that or below. Summer time for this community always means inactivity, once October hits the boards will be flooded and RP will be extremely busy, which is a normal occurrence in the ARPC.

From what I have been told, having the new vampire guilds has revitalized our summer activity to higher levels, which is a definitely a good thing, and will certainly make for some epic, grand scale roleplay once the more active months come around.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Phyrra Venorik wrote:
I can imagine that if it had been me as the GM of Legion back when and not Vaen...


*twitches and spasms a bit with the thought*

Everyone is missing the point. All the women in the community want to cyber Vaen, and Vaen wants to cyber me, therefore by the transitive property, all the women in the community want to cyber me bananalove

Back on topic though, I think if people would just stop being nosey and having to know what goes on behind closed doors, and just focused on their own RP, IT WOULD BE AN RP REVIVAL!!! *starts dancing*
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

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As long as things of adult nature are done in private, or with fully consenting legal aged participants, I don't see the problem.


I couldn't agree more, what adults do in private or ooc is no ones business but there own.

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As it does for me; what i am concerned about is how this effects CAP and how others will interact or should I say not interact with CAP because of it. There are a lot of real good people in CAP that are good RPers and it would be a tragedy if this was to effect them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:09 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Tbh, I get different feelings toward people cybering at different times.
One moment, I'll make fun of cyberers, the next moment, I'll cyber with a woman who doesn't know my age because I'm a perverted teenager Razz
I won't go into detail about that...
I'm HETEROCYBERFEELINGS!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:22 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis,

What character do you play again? I am still trying to meet you.
You do play UO right now, and are an active RP'r?


Like I said in the other thread, I don't play anymore. I have many reasons that I will not get into, but contrary to my bitter rants (and probably popular belief as a result of my bitter rants) my reasons are not (primarily) related to the community itself, mostly the game, or how the community is situated within the game. I just pop in now and then to give my opinion, which I don't need to subscribe to UO to have, and I simply don't sugar coat it. I feel sugar coating my opinion is either misleading or insulting. If I need to baby someone with words over the internet then they aern't worth my time anyways.

I'm also going to leave my reply at that. Any new content this post has acquired since my last post is not worth me getting into for fear of losing my sanity.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:06 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Isk wrote:
Kujabis is a community veteran. He put in his time in the community and helped ARPC plenty on the IG/OOC organizational side. You don't have to play to share your opinion even if it is unfiltered so long as board rules are respected.


This is true Isk.

I say this with the utmost respect.

When I retire from the army the last thing I am going to be doing is calling up the regiment to remind them about their heritage. I think I will move on after.

Here's a nickel, if you don't mind my 3 cents back.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:34 am Post subject: Reply with quote

No, but if you were well known in the army, and did a LOT of work to improve it, and even helped build the foundations for some of the things that are still used for years to come, and then someone right out of MEPS strikes up a conversation with you and they say to you, "Your opinion doesn't matter, you aren't in the Army anymore," they would have hell to pay.

However, this analogy is lacking, as the ARPC is no where near like the Army. The ARPC has a longstanding history with people who put their necks on the line to better this community, and they still poke around from time to time. Kuja is one of those people. There are many more, and whether they play or not, their opinions are still welcome on this board. And they will always be welcome on this board.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:58 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Ceinwyn, I learned most of the lore of this game from the classes I attended while a member of your guild, imo you are one of the most knowledgeable players in this game. You are also one of the best RP'ers I have encountered. If I were you i would just ignore those kind of comments.

I personnally don't engage in cybering, because I'm married irl and it would cause problems. I, however, have no problems with others doing it. It is a natural part of life. The drow are very sexual by nature, so to keep my chars somewhat true to their nature, i have made 2 of my own chars a couple
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

A note on my characters, my fiance Tom (Will Kaldhel) plays and all of our characters are either related, friends with or married to each other. We live together rl but if our characters are planning a family we act it out in game so we are roleplaying out what happens.

In the past if I have had relationships ig with someone that I knew was too young, they can tell you that it was a fade to black after the kissing. There is noting wrong with that approach either. Do not feel pressured into doing anything you do not feel comfortable doing.

Try to remember there is a real person on the other side of that monitor who has feelings. Be very clear where you are going with this and what you are willing to do. Use icq or party to plan or discuss it first and if it goes farther than you want, stop it in party or icq if necessary. Communication is key.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Orgollree'rean wrote:
Ceinwyn, I learned most of the lore of this game from the classes I attended while a member of your guild, imo you are one of the most knowledgeable players in this game. You are also one of the best RP'ers I have encountered. If I were you i would just ignore those kind of comments.


I had to quote Orgollree'rean on this one. Ceinwyn is one of those people that really is in this for the rp and with a true desire to help those who she takes under her wing, as well as help further the community. It sounds like the gm of the guild has taken care of this, but it probably will come up again by someone else new. Cein, keep doing what you love. You are far better than these dumb rumors.
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Teh Glouris Lrod Kujabis
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:38 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Aszcar Majere wrote:
This is true Isk.

I say this with the utmost respect.

When I retire from the army the last thing I am going to be doing is calling up the regiment to remind them about their heritage. I think I will move on after.

Here's a nickel, if you don't mind my 3 cents back.


As I said before, I don't have to shell out 15$ for my opinion to be relevant and potentially insightful or educational.
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Aszcar Majere
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Vaen Swiftar wrote:
No, but if you were well known in the army, and did a LOT of work to improve it, and even helped build the foundations for some of the things that are still used for years to come, and then someone right out of MEPS strikes up a conversation with you and they say to you, "Your opinion doesn't matter, you aren't in the Army anymore," they would have hell to pay.

However, this analogy is lacking, as the ARPC is no where near like the Army. The ARPC has a longstanding history with people who put their necks on the line to better this community, and they still poke around from time to time. Kuja is one of those people. There are many more, and whether they play or not, their opinions are still welcome on this board. And they will always be welcome on this board.


Vaen Swiftar,

We have to agree to disargee. When a Hon Col Ret'd came up to us and gave us his opinion, we were like "Yes Sir, of course Sir!" then after he went away we were "Boys keep doing the way we do it".

And reference the second part, you may not realize how much it is.

And you are right, everyone has the right to their opinion. This is America.

"Yes sir, of course Sir, please have a wonderful endless night Sir."

Really we gotta lighten up, try this.


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