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Rosar Ashande · Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:22 pm Post subject:

For once, I agree with Arlin on most of his points. And I agree on one other point in principle, but I disagree with his reasoning and strongly doubt its practicality.

Baron Mordegan · Seasoned Veteran Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 300

The ideas are all well and good..but how will the map be updated and how often etc..you don't want to bog 1 guy down with a load of work if the period between claim wars etc is to short. I suggested 2 weeks but I think depending how succesful this could be I would actually push the time between claims to 3-4 weeks thus allowing for RP and to satisfy those who don't like pvp all the time.
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Rosar Ashande · Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:34 pm Post subject:

Creating the map would take the longest, but afterward it shouldn't be too hard to update. With Flash, it would be a simple matter of creating solid-color overlays for every region and then re-coloring them as needed.
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Ceinwyn ab'Arawn · Transcendent Spammer Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 5017

Druids would never be paid to fight. What use is gold to them? Nature and Lord Oaks give them all that they need. End of discussion on that.

Special powers I suppose you mean when I used Norture and OES as an example. Sorry man but personally.. in an RP community- Warfare takes second place to Roleplay.

This was never about who has the twink items to conquer all. This was always about imagination and storyline. So what if bad guys win a few. Its exciting! And you can always RP a revenge saga.

YOU MUST BE WILLING TO LOSE FOR THIS WHOLE THING TO WORK

YOU MUST BE GRACIOUS- YOU MUST NOT BE A SORE LOSER

above all else the RP must go on.

And anyone want to discuss my personal beliefs on the pet per battle topic? Take it up in a new thread.

Arlin · Slightly Crazed Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Posts: 1464

Heres the thing though, if the good guys cant muster enough people to defeat the bad guys, the bad guys win, good guys wage a rebel war.

I never liked being told I couldnt bring all my guys when I ran the black dogs. I got bitched at alot because, as Mercenaries, people would hire us so they'd outnumber their enemies.

If you lose, you lose, so what. See, the problem has always been 'oh everything has to be fair!' It doesnt work that way. If you keep getting beat, then you need a change of plans or you get wiped out.

The TWP never worked out great because people got tired of being told what to do.

You set basic rules: no rez killing, no stone stacking, no one man guilds owning 20 pieces of land.

Its that simple. You want to attack a piece of territory, you work it out with the enemy guild leader what day and night. If you want to have 5 battles in 5 nights over land, why the hell not!

It could work, but it has to stay simple, now that Ive thought about it more. The TWP was always trying to do all the work: make the guildmasters do the work instead, TWP just sets down basic rules and runs the map, and if nesscerey arbitrates between two guilds. Thats it.

If two guilds want to limit how many people battle, let them decide.
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Ceinwyn ab'Arawn · Transcendent Spammer Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 5017

I agree with Arlin.

Aerilyn · Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:51 pm Post subject:

Amazingly enough, as do I.

Dan · Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject:

Hey now, I'm not saying you had to, I was just giving out an idea is all.

...and yeah, Arlin's right. You lose? Tough tits. You overwhelmed? Build a rebellion within their kingdom, and take'm out!

The TWP is really starting to sound like a great foundation for RP plots and such, and I really do hope it goes through. I really don't have the knowhow for making FLASH maps, but if you guys would like, I'll try to divide the Southern Malas map as much as I can as so that there will be at least 10 sections or whatever.

As far as the Norture thing is concerned, I just don't think that you can use "RP" to take the advantage in a battle everytime you see fit UNLESS it is approved by the opposing GM.

Nazralte · Lore Keeper Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 790

Arlin, you make many good points, and I do agree with most.

The limiting of numbers is, in my opinion, somewhat needed. However, those who can field more people, will. The only point in reduction is to give the smaller guilds a chance and of course, to have more fun between all. Plus, you gotta remember that generally we dont have that many RPers anymore. Most guilds only have about 10 active people or so.

One week between claims is so that it is easier for us to update the map and give time for people to work out a place/time for a battle/confrontation.

Stone stacking is something I would more assuredly watch out for. But with the limiting of numbers, it should help to curtail it.

As for the 5 man guild owning 20 sections, I do not see anything wrong with that. If no one challenges them, no biggie.

This whole powers thing people are talking about...it has absolutly no place in the TWP. You need to realize that this is just an OOC tool to help with wars IC. Powers and such would be all about Roleplay and would have to be discussed between those RPing.

Im gonna try and get a message board up and a website of course. Once I do that we should be able to discuss everything alot easier, hehe.
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Ceinwyn ab'Arawn · Transcendent Spammer Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 5017

Now now, Danny Boy, I never said always or every.. and of course everything discussed OOC by GMs first

Dan · Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:17 pm Post subject:

Cal Hurst · Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject:

I see nothing wrong with 5 person guilds holding 20 sections, either.

Just be prepared for 20 sections to be attacked at once. Then what? You spread yourself too thin and have to pick and choose.
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Rosar Ashande · Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject:

Smiticles · Sage Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 653 Location: The Ether

I'm not going to get into a rules discussion here. You guys can more than handle that.

With that said, I'm all for some form of organzied war games along these lines.

The concept of fair play and the willingness to put ego aside and be a loser is key to making this work.

If my home of Vesper were to be taken under control (mind you I or the ALV lays no claim to the town...I'm not sure or care if anyone really does) I would just RP my displeasure as a citizen, should I actually dislike the controlling guild. If the controlling guild applies some form of totalitarian control that I don't like then I'll just RP a grass roots insurgancy to usurp them.

*A hooded figure walks into the bank square and tosses an explosive into a group of guards and runs*

On second thought that might sound a little too realistic given the modern day world we live in!

What I'm trying to say is, win or lose I will get some RP out of this.

Rosar Ashande · Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:30 pm Post subject: